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 Post subject: Harrisons Mash?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:26 am 
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Has anyone used harrisons mash or superfine pellets for an additional uro supplement? I had a bunch for my birds so gave my malis a small dish and seems to loves it. Any studies on the optional requirements on uros? I'll post a picture of the breakdown - just a thought as I work with a lot of birds...Image Image

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 Post subject: Re: Harrisons Mash?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:52 am 
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I feed my Uros juvenile iguanna pellets and mazuri tortoise pellets. They love the tortoise pellets and will pick at the iguanna pellets.
I dont know if there is a science to it but if it has the proper nutrients and they'll eat it then why not. I would have to guess anything meant for vegetarians like iguannas, tutles and birds is also good for Uros but its just a guess so take it with a grain of salt.

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 Post subject: Re: Harrisons Mash?
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I sometimes use ground Mazuri tort pellets, but I've read that ornates (which I have) can have a hard time with it sticking to their mouths, so I stopped providing it. I do use Repashy Veggie Dust as well as Miner-all supplements.

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 Post subject: Re: Harrisons Mash?
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i think tortoise pellets contain mostly dried alfalfa dont they? the same as rabbit alfalfa cubes?
i dont much see the point in providing dry foods though when its so easy to grow the plants which have much better nutritional value?


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 Post subject: Re: Harrisons Mash?
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The point of adding pellets is because they are fortified with vitamins and minerals, adding them to the diet can help prevent nutritional deficiencies. Plus, many people only feed supermarket foods, which have a high water content, so adding a dry food like keeps the tortoise's diet from being too high in moisture. I am not sure if it's a similar issue with chucks and uros, though.

I would agree that adding as much freshly grown food as possible is a healthy alternative. However, not everyone can provide the variety that is found in the wild.

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 Post subject: Re: Harrisons Mash?
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yeh i totally agree. but i still think people should do their upmost to grow as much as they can where possible. i offer around 30-40 different plants a week and most are home grown by myself with additional calcium supplemented via the soil. garden lime is great stuff.
i would still like to try to grow more though. im going to need to invest in a large green house at some point! lol. chucks and uros are both the same in my book when it comes to providing as many nutritional foods as possible. I like to grow things myself because i know exactly what they are getting that way. and i work out all the nutritional values in a diet plan so i can check against it through the week with feeding.
dry foods have their place though. i just dont think they by any means compare to a very varied home grown diet.
and i dont think the water content of plants is really all the bad. they just eliminate what they dont need after all. the impact it has on the organs is minimal in detremental affects from what ive read and a well hydrated lizard is better than a slightly dehydrated one as far as i can tell.


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 Post subject: Re: Harrisons Mash?
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Are you listening to yourself? All I see is "I". It isn't about us, it's about the Lizards! As Spyral said "The point of adding pellets is because they are fortified with vitamins and minerals, adding them to the diet can help prevent nutritional deficiencies". It is easier for the lizards. In the wild they do as little as possible to successfully survive. Think about it. They wake up, warm up, eat, poop, sleep and the cycle continues...We need to replicate that in our enclosures for THEM. It's (probably) cheaper for us this way too. Sounds win win to me. I have seen that my chucks secrete much fluid compared to what I see in the wild and I believe that grocery products are a big part of the cause. The pellets help with this.


What's the current status of your chuck(s)?


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 Post subject: Re: Harrisons Mash?
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how has it got anything to do with what is best for me? you think its easy trying to keep up with growing a hundred different plants? yes I already stated that dry foods have their place! and i have fed dry foods on the odd occassion. i use grocery products at the bare minimum so i dont see what that has to do with what is most practical and easy for me either.
Do you think it does the reptiles harm to have additional fluid? im only asking because i dont know and am eager to learn.

supplying a more balanced and varied diet also prevents nutritional deficiences but i dont see everyone growing loads of different plants for there herbivor reptiles. i like to promote it personally. i dont see there being anything wrong with that. i wasnt saying that people are wrong for using dry foods at all. just that there are other ways of ensuring your reptile gets the correct nutrients, one of which you seem to be talking about being fibre.

do the dry foods have added supplements? you know chemically put in opposed to what they contain naturally if dried?

my chucks are great thank you. my two boys are progressing very well and really do enjoy their large enclosures. they are both very confident and are venturing the reptile room too. I love being able to provide so much space for them. the female is also progressing well after the very poor condition she was in when i got her. shes put on a lot of weight and is eating every day. her faecal screen came back with a few issues which i am dealing with, with help from my herp vet who spent many years in the mojave and around america studying reptile wildlife. i have been using herbal remedies on her which has really paid off, they have now been reduced so that antibiotics can be given as mixing herbs and western medicine can cause problems. it really does upset me that she previously had such poor care but im glad i can take proper care of her now and hope that she will thrive as the boys do.


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 Post subject: Re: Harrisons Mash?
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and yes i will say I a lot. because I can only go on my own experience and what i have learnt from others. i by no means would expect people to do as i do and know that there are many ways of keeping reptiles that all have their benefits.


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 Post subject: Re: Harrisons Mash?
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it really does upset me that she previously had such poor care but im glad i can take proper care of her now and hope that she will thrive as the boys do.

All you can do is live with what YOU have done for her and you have pretty much brought her back from the grave - Good For You! Job well done, LMS!


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