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 Post subject: Adult Female Calico
PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:25 pm 
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Thought we would get a picture up in this catagory.
This girl is quite nice in our opinion. She is just about 6years old in this picture and boy is she THICK.


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 Post subject: Re: Adult Female Calico
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:24 pm 
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is there any genetic impact on mixing different species?

what would happen if you mixed a carrot tail and a black back for example? would they come out a bit of both or a mix in the hatchlings? i know nothing about breeding.
what are the most common?

when catching wild chucks do you go to really different areas to collect females from males so you dont end up inbreeding? surely it must be impossible to tell if you have related chucks? or do you do genetic testing? is there a gentic database out there?

id love to learn all of these things.

is there a record that people can go on to see how many chuckwallas there are in captivity ?
i cant imagine theres a lot in the UK, it wouldnt be too difficult to get everyone that owns one to add their deetails to a database would it? i would think that most people that keep chucks use forums etc?

have you ever come across chucks that are disformed because of inbreeding?

i would really like to breed in the future but it would be so important to me that i dont inbreed and its really difficault when most of the captive breds are from wild caughts and those wild caughts dont seem to have any infomation supplied with them?

theres so much to learn! lol


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 Post subject: Re: Adult Female Calico
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:19 am 
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LoveMySauromalus wrote:


what would happen if you mixed a carrot tail and a black back for example? would they come out a bit of both or a mix in the hatchlings? i know nothing about breeding.
what are the most common?


A lot of us would say this is just not done. It's a shame to mix different locales as all mountain ranges have their own unique and bueatifull chucks. So mixing these would be a shame. (in my opinion ...not done)


LoveMySauromalus wrote:
when catching wild chucks do you go to really different areas to collect females from males so you dont end up inbreeding? surely it must be impossible to tell if you have related chucks? or do you do genetic testing? is there a gentic database out there?


No you do not collect them from different areas, you try to collect a pair from the same mountain range so you do not mix locales. Like I said its a shame if you mix locaes, because every mountain range has its own color setting, some redbacks are plain red, some more orange and some a little pinkisch, som have white specles through the red som have black tails some have white tails. Than you also have the black backs with white tails or yellow tails or red tails. IT really would be a shame if you go and breed all those nice features out of the chucks..... ( my opinion)

And well I do think there is inbreeding in the wild as some mountain ranges are pretty small, and the chucks seem to be staying on their own mountain range......

LoveMySauromalus wrote:
is there a record that people can go on to see how many chuckwallas there are in captivity ?
i cant imagine theres a lot in the UK, it wouldnt be too difficult to get everyone that owns one to add their deetails to a database would it? i would think that most people that keep chucks use forums etc?


In Europe we have a Studbook for Chucks, but I must admit that mostly Dutch and Germans are involved. And its pretty slow (I know as I'm the Studbook keeper) I think there are a few breeders in the UK. For this species a studbook is not that important as these are still pretty abundant in the wild. But the studbook is a way to get in contact with other chuck keepers.


LoveMySauromalus wrote:
have you ever come across chucks that are disformed because of inbreeding?


Well there probably are chucks that are disformed, but I have never seen one disformed because of inbreeding.

LoveMySauromalus wrote:
i would really like to breed in the future but it would be so important to me that i dont inbreed and its really difficault when most of the captive breds are from wild caughts and those wild caughts dont seem to have any infomation supplied with them?

theres so much to learn! lol


Well the possibility that Wild caughtt are related is pretty slim, but you never know for sure. And in fact ......all captive breds are from WC parental stock :) down the line.....

Thats my thoughts.........

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 Post subject: Re: Adult Female Calico
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:51 am 
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cheers! i would never do anything that is to the detrement of the species! so of course i will keep to the most ethical procedures.
maybe get a pair of hispisdus in the future!

at the moment im very happy with my black back males and need to find out exactly where the female i have to collect is from and what her parents are.

i care so deeply about all animals, when it comes to the time that my chucks are mature i will only breed if i have strongly developed my knowledge and feel competent to successfully breed maintaining optimal health for all individuals and hatchlings.

i will of course be seperating my young pair next season anyway, i want my chucks to be healthy grown and fat before they having breeding stress!

thanks Kamiel, ive still got so much to learn!


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